Philia Alliance

[magispar]

Wha? You mean for the image at the top of the table? Hmmm... I think that's meant to have a wolfy in, shall we manip a wolfy into the meadow?

[magispar]

Okay, some ideas for each subterritory;

Banks of the Aquiri- the Aquiri is the river running through the Meadow, obviously. Seeing as it'd be nice to have some kind of source for herbal remedies, the banks could be very soft and muddy, so that's perfect for herbs to grow, and there's loads of herbs there. Apart from that, of course, there's the river to drink from / play in / wash in and stuff.
Poppy Meadow - a meadow full of poppies, prey rich, beautiful, large red poppy flowers as tall as a wolf, lovely scent
Kytalae Hollow - contains the dens, the pack has meetings there, is a hollow in the meadow containing some bushes (for shelter), very well sheltered, quite pretty, a few flowers, some moss and stuff collected by the pack for bedding, etc etc. Also maybe a rock where during meetings whoever's talking can jump up onto the rock to get the pack's attention.
Aehlii Plains- open plains, grass that swishes in the wind, very green, like a sea of plants, prey-rich, most of the prey is hunted here, etc.
Riala's Creek- Riala's Creek is a small, clear creek running off from the Aquiri River. It has a grey pebble bed and you can see right to the bottom as the water is very clear and lovely. As such, the pack forbids bathing in it or polluting at, as they want to keep it clean and clear; wolves may drink from it, though. The banks are very wet, soft and sandy, so fighting-apprentices' mentors often take them here to spar. Its name was simply the Clear Creek for a while, but the Alliance revived its ancient name from myth and song; Riala's Creek. According to legend, here is where Riala, a hero of several ballads, leys and children's stories, laid down her life for her family and pack. The Great Spirit declared that the water should be so clear here in her honour.

I wanted the connections since we might end up enemies with Styrr and Styrr is bigger and stronger and full of good fighters and for heaven's sake you have to fight to get in, they're a strong fighting pack, we're gonna lose unless we have some kind of advantage, so I decided to give us one.

[lyta]

I'm scared that they'll say we can't have black as it's a loner colour. If they do, shall we switch colours?

Ideas are-
Khaki and our current blue
Our current blue and sunny yellow
Our current blue and a darkish purple
Khaki and sunny yellow (reflects the meadow)
Orange and dark purple

[lyta]

*yellow

[Cy]

Lyta you do not need to post an entire new message just for one correction. You have the options to modify your post, use it. I have docked the 5 paw prints from your account that you got form that last post.

[mistylight]

I would love to join this pack when its finished and my opinion on colours would have to be the light cyanish turquiose and the sunny yellow. But if not the turquiose and the black is also cool. Im really excited and id love to join when its completed!!! 8)

[lyta]

Cypress, I understand if you think I'm PP-hunting, and I'm sorry. It was because my dad was coming, and I have a very flammable position with my parents, they're both always yelling at each other and me and my dad can be slightly violent, and if they found out that I go on RP sites, they would KILL me, very possibly literally. (If you're now wondering why I come here anyway, it's because RP keeps me sane.) So my dad was coming and I had to click off really quickly, but I didn't have the time to do 'click modify, find right place, backspace, type yellow properly' as his footsteps were already on the stairs, and my fingers were shaking, and I didn't want people to think I was insane posting 'yeollo', so I really quickly typed yellow in Quick Reply and hit post and barely got the window closed before he walked in and started yelling at me over standard of last night's HWK.

I didn't even realise I would get PP for that post and I am sorry. I thought PP was disabled in this board, like in the OOC board.

Mistylight, we look forward to having you. We have already chosen the colours as cyan and black, my post about the colours was just in case the black was refused.

[Cy]

Lyta, you do not need to provide an excuse. Don't let it happen again. You could have come back later to fix the typo.


As for the Alliance, the staff has a few concerns:

Territories -

* The Underground Tunnels that lead into other territories is unrealistic. That is unfair to the other packs, and threatens the integrity of the landscape.
--Yes, there is a pack that has tunnels already, but that is only in one place that is a result of an underground river that is slowly eating away at the land. Parts of the landscape there are collapsing due to sink holes.


Alpha/Founder Choices -

* Lumen should be the last breed on the site to consider equality...that and they are not strong enough if they would be required to fight to defend their land. Having two founders be lumen does not make sense since they have an aversion to pack life in general.
* Also, we are putting new rules in that require alpha activity to be mandatory. So far the alphas have not been active on the site in general.
* The pack will not be accepted until all three founders are active. You may consider finding a fourth founder in case any of your current founders fail to return.


Honestly, it might be better if you hold off on creating a pack until you all get better acquainted with the site, since all the founders at present are relatively new.

[magispar]

I'm not attempting to excuse myself, I would just hate to be seen as a PP hunter. I was in fact going to fix the typo and delete the original message but you sadly got there first.

As for the Alliance...

About the tunnels, I'm fine with that, I just have an irrational love of tunnels and all the decent tunnel-owning territories are taken. We can take that out fine, I'll remove it.

I originally didn't want to go for Lumen much either, I was going to do something else, but Nazir wanted Lumen and I went along since I had my way for most of it and figured it was his turn.
I know Lumen in general have an aversion to pack life, but ours are both very young, and mine in particular was born into a pack; while her species would in general prefer not to be in a pack, I'm hoping that her past belonging-to-a-pack and her fiery, idealist nature in general provides a sensible reason for her to start a pack. She might not be the best alpha in the world, but she can be one.

I realise that she may not be able to defend the land very well, but she can flash light in people's eyes, grant her packmates' wishes, and become invisible to sneak up on enemies.

In most packs, yes, this wouldn't be acceptable, but as everybody's equal, the Guide in the Alliance isn't like the Alpha for any other pack; everybody's equal and helps with everything, it's just that some specialise, and the guides specialise in tactics and guiding the pack; they've no more rights or power than anybody else! This extends to defending the land; everybody would do it together.
I'm happy to change my founder if we have to, but I think those reasons would be enough. It is a pretty unusual pack, but that's the point.

I consider myself active since I'm on nearly every day- if I'm not, what do you mean by active, and how can I become active? Same with Toril, I never have to wait more than a day or so for one of his replies unless he's waiting for me and Nazir like he was in MEET & CLAIM & RANK. I may not always post when I'm on, but that's generally because I can't find many threads which Lyta has an excuse to be in that look interesting.

I get how founders need to be active, but I don't particularly want to kick Nazir out and have her return to find we've kicked her out of her founder and alpha positions. That would be unfair on her. If we do choose a fourth founder, will it be okay if me, Toril, and the fourth founder are active? Therefore three active founders as well as Nazir?

If both alphas need to be active, does that extend even when we're not actually alphas? The concept of a guide, who has no more power than anybody else and just specialises on advising the pack and knows stuff about strategy, is very different from that of an alpha, a wolf who makes decisions and leads the pack.
If so... I really don't want to just kick Nazir out of her alpha spot and don't have the authority to anyway, she's a founder and alpha just as much as I am.

I'm confusing myself now... how can we get round Nazir's inactivity without taking her out of the pack which I can't and won't do?

And I know that you think we should hold off a little, but pack creation was the entire reason I came here; the adverts said "A site of incredible freedom... make a pack," etc, and I clicked and when I saw how much status the packs actually had I was dying to make one. That's the entire reason I joined this site and pretty much the reason I like this site, love it even, since I'm not naturally very drawn to sites with a lot of complicated rules and regulations and stuff, I consider it stifling. WW is cool to me because A) I can make a pack which will have eternal coolness and B) because it looks nice. I really, really want to make this pack, and judging by the "Looking forwards to the Alliance," and "I want to join when it's made," comments I've been getting through the cbox I think others want to have it too.

Please don't try and dissuade me, I'm happy to fix problems but I love this pack already.

[Eastern]

Lumen can't grant wishes willy nilly. If you read properly, you would see that a wolf can only get one wish out of any one lumen. So if both alphas are lumen, each wolf in that pack would have two wishes tops, and would never be able to get more.

Lumen would not run a pack. They hate other species. Seeing as yours are the first lumen, I am not willing to overlook this. Maybe, if there were more lumen mucking about. But there aren’t. You have the only two lumen on the site, so they should be representatives of the species. I would also overlook this if it was for plotting purposes. But having lumen alphas is not really imperative to the plot. It serves no purpose. The fact that they are young is not a good reason. In fact, they are so young, that they are still considered infants by their own species. Long-lived wolves develop much slower then an average wolf.

As for this being a free site, that was before everyone left and this site’s activity plummeted. Now, we have to be stricter lest this site fall into mayhem and never again rise to the glory it once possessed. We are trying to protect the integrity of our site, and if that means taking back promises, so be it.

[nali]

I just want to add that you don't need to subject a founder in order to add a new one. You can have more than three founders. You just need at least three of them to be active (meaning on around 4 days a week and posting regularly).

[magispar]

I did read properly- I know each wolf would get two wishes max, but in times of crisis, how many wishes do we actually need? Probably one per massive crisis.

I can change my alpha, but we'll have to wait for Raja's return before she can change Nazir. And it would probably have to be something else long-lived if I change and Raja doesn't, to match Magi's mate's lifespan. Would Sennyo be okay?

And I'm fine finding a fourth founder; how do you think we should find one? Just ask in the cbox, or hold auditions, or what?

Lastly, if I have to change the alpha's species, can I just change Magi's species, or do I have to delete Magi and make an entirely new wolf? And do we have to edit the pack-forming thread so that it doesn't say anything about Lumen?

[magispar]

Okay, we have found a fourth founder, Phoenix has bravely volunteered. So checklist:

1. Add Phoenix to founders list. CHECK.
2. Modify Magi to be a Light Lupus CHECK
3. Take out Tunnels. CHECK.
4. When Raja returns, tell her to either switch Nazir's species or age her really really fast. Sort of check because I can only do it when Raja returns so it's check for now, then uncheck when she returns, then check again when I tell her. Sort of. Confusing myself now.


I HAZ MODIFIED MAGI. She needs to be moved to Lupus, and probably reaccepted, because she's changed a lot.

[nali]

We never said take out the tunnels. >.e We just said you can't have them expand into other pack territories. You can have all the tunnels you want so long as they remain within the borders of your chosen territory. ^^;;

You also need your newest founder to meet the other two active founders.

The staff will have another discussion on all the changes to make sure you're up to snuff. Please have some patience. Packs generally take months to make because there is so much thought and information that needs to go into their creation. While I can't speak for everyone, I know that the fact that you've done all this in such a short amount of time has my head spinning. It's a lot to keep up with and read over.

[☆Phoenix]

hehehe, snuff, thats a funny mistake, anywho what do u mean meet like in character or like something else?