AVALON !
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Post by AVALON ! on Mar 17, 2010 16:26:39 GMT -5
THE WOLF PACK OF AWESOME [/font] So I decided to move the thread about the regular/traditional wolf pack here so it could be more of a brainstorming place than a discussion about whether or not it would be a good idea. To see the original discussion board click here.
Basically the premise of the pack would be that it follows a traditional hierarchical scheme, with ranks of the Greek alphabet. So Alpha, Beta, etc. etc. The pack would be centred around respect and submission to your leaders (and any ranked members above you).
One of my ideas was to have a tournament each spring - the Gamma/Delta/Epsilon ranks are more 'worker' ranks... so for example, the Gamma wolf would be the best warrior of the pack. So, the pack holds a tournament with the current Gamma wolf and any challengers (or anyone the alpha sees fit, 'cause you know, alpha has the last say), and they fight and the winner takes the rank. This ensures that the best wolf is holding that rank.
Each rank would have a male and female equivalent, unless none is to be had. The ranks don't have to be mated, save the alpha pair. So...
Alpha - leaders Beta - help the alphas, next in line after the alphas Gamma - warriors of the pack Delta - hunters of the pack Epsilon - healer/spiritual leader Subordinate - main body of the pack Adolescents/Pups - younger members Omega - cone of shame
Also on another note, Egress suggested shoving the Gamma and Delta jobs together, and then having the healer/shaman be the Delta. Opinions, ideas? I want to see both sides, as I think both ideas are good in their own way. I'm used to have quite a few 'job' ranks, so suggest away!
So in the pack, the alphas would get to eat first, they'd be the supreme overlords basically. I also would want to implement something that is not as extreme as actual wolf packs, but more realistic. Since only the alpha pair mate in reality, I would have any member who wants to mate ask the alphas for permission.
Anyways, moving on, the pack needs a name. Obviously it can't be called "Pack Awesome". So I'll put a list of ideas below and we can eventually figure out which one works best. Feel free to suggest one as well.
- Solum Valensi Lupi
- Valensi Pack
- Enthycia Pack √
- X'yn Toruk Pack
- Zenllther Cadre
- Vantntmor Cadre
- Styrrstdar Pack √
Cadre - The framework or skeleton upon which a regiment is to be formed; the officers of a regiment forming the staff.
I figured it could be interchangeable with pack, just because "Blah Blah Pack" sounds a bit monotonous? Let me know what you think! It might be veering too far away from traditional, but in the old days of roleplaying we used to interchange 'em. x]
Also here's a list of those interested, the character they intend to join with, and their proposed rank.
- Art / Rhia / Alpha Female
- East / Fortissimo / Alpha Male
- Holly / Neb / Gamma
- Pos / Yhi / Gamma
- Spick / ??? / Omega
- Daci / Pitch / ??? (Maybe)
TERRITORY - Ryell Canyon Pack Land Ideas - Gem Cave, Meeting Rocks, Canyon Top, Waterfall, Cave Dens, Some sort of cave spring?, cave fighting ground Colour Schemes - Dark Brown and Light Purple, Dark Purple and Light Tan, Dark Purple and Yellow
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Post by kurdaitcha on Mar 17, 2010 17:32:27 GMT -5
I say this pack should be PURPLE. We need some purple in our little legend! Up to you guys, definitely, but in my experience purple with a lighter/somewhat more tan second color would look nice.
Oh, and I'm saying that we have two wolves in each of the lettered ranks. Two alphas are two leaders, and two betas will take over if they die, and will be the most likely to challenge if they see weakness. One of the Gammas would be the hunt organizer, and the other would be the scouting/warrior leader. One of the Deltas would be in charge of healing, and the other would be the pack's Spiritual leader. These positions are all most likely to be filled by one female and one male per rank, but for the Gamma and the Delta that is not strictly necessary.
Those are my thoughts for maximum Pack of AWESOME awesomeness. And of course you have the subordinates, the youth, and the Omegas (cone of shame=made me lol)
Good names? Something traditional, of course. Something like "Asaferra Pack" would be very traditional, but you can go in any direction with your interpretation of "traditional." Of course, I just pulled that name completely out of my elbow. Other suggestions might be... [thinks] Valensi Pack, of course. It really depends on the territory you want. If it's something hot, go with something that's full of heavy sounds, like "sh," "th," (not that because there's already Therian) or "hae." If it's a soft, foresty area, go with something that's rustly sounds like wind through trees: "is," "et," "pi."
Thanks for taking charge of this, Arty!
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Post by RHIANNON ! on Mar 17, 2010 17:40:34 GMT -5
Okay, I see what you mean with the Gamma/Delta thing. I do want to hear other opinions before I make a decision on it.
I would love to go with purple. Mainly because it's my favourite colour. Purple and tan... or dark chocolate and light purple. Either would work. I agree with the traditional name, I just couldn't think of anything snazzy. xD
I like Valensi. For pack lands I'm thinking either the Ryell Canyon or the Connewa Meadow. With the meadow, the tournaments would be easy, but the canyon is pretty cool. Votes on that too!
xD And no problem. It's fun and gives me something to do. :]
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Post by remus on Mar 17, 2010 18:07:04 GMT -5
OOHOOHOOH CAN YHI JOIN!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Yhi is KDs brother and would SO be an awesome Gamma
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Post by RHIANNON ! on Mar 17, 2010 18:40:49 GMT -5
Sure. =] Hunter or fighter? Doesn't matter but logistically, I'd like to know which to put him in. x]
EDIT : I'm dumb. If we go with the way I have them up there, warrior. But if we lump warrior and hunter together, I suppose he'd be in the warrior part?
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Post by Artemis on Mar 17, 2010 18:44:22 GMT -5
I want one of my wolves as Omega. Either Siren when she escapes or Miko when he's older. Omega is luffly
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Post by kurdaitcha on Mar 17, 2010 18:45:03 GMT -5
I'm full of canyon-related ideas. A cave with gems in it, firstly, and a little pool that has light filtering down from a hole (be it from the sun or the stars and moon). a meetingplace in the ravine which is basically rocks rising high above the spray of the river, the tallest on which the alphas will stand to deliver their speeches/announcements. There would be a few narrow ledges, but all formal meetings require wolves in attendance to jump onto the meeting-rocks, which means only adults can attend. And of course there's the top of the canyon, where the games could be held. It would probably be scrubby with a few sparse trees for spectators to use as shade while they watch the games.
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Post by RHIANNON ! on Mar 17, 2010 18:55:41 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm definitely leading towards the canyon. I think it'd be cool to have some sort of waterfall too...
And Siren or Miko would be awesome as an omega. =] I'm sure Rhia would love that. xD Do you want to map out territories with me maybe later?
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Post by Fortissimo on Mar 17, 2010 19:18:22 GMT -5
Yeah, the canyon is my favorite place. We should have a waterfall, and the Alpha's den should be a cave behind it...the other can just die in the sun! jk. ^^ Their dens are just situated around the water fall.
I like everything so far. Im not good with these sorts of names....so i'll just keep my trap shut....
We could have purple and yellow! COMPLIMENTARY COLORS....but i do like dark brown and pale purple. sexy. also for the games, They should paint each other with red mud form the canyon! ^^
(Forte is a goat...goats climb things.....they climb on mountains, and canyons.....irony? Serendipity?)
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Post by lordbarkler on Mar 17, 2010 19:36:29 GMT -5
Nebbbb, Gamma? I dunno, whatever works...
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Post by lilura on Mar 18, 2010 0:12:56 GMT -5
Pitch might think of joining, she likes the Canyon. But she's kinda... sadistic, malicious, etc. XD She'd love the chance to raise some hell in a pack. I can see her not liking taking orders, though.
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Post by AVALON ! on Mar 18, 2010 10:17:23 GMT -5
Loving the waterfall/alpha den thing. That would be awesome. Perhaps a series of caves behind the water fall, and one area could be like... a kind of training area? But it'd be dangerous because it's slippery. Maybe alpha fights happen there?
I don't particularly like yellow in general... so I'd have to say no yellow. Maybe tan though, or a light green, which I think goes nice with purple. I like the paint idea too! Dark brown and light purple is my personal favourite for colours.
Neb for gamma would work as well. So two males with gamma works if everyone is okay with it. Pitch joining would be fine... the alphas could make her a kind of assassin, if she'd like. If she's rebellious, she might wind up with omega though, if you're okay with that.
Anymore ideas? I will update this when I get home.
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Post by AVALON ! on Mar 18, 2010 14:20:19 GMT -5
Alright my darlings. I updated the rank/member list thing. Let me know if you want anything changed/added. Feel free other people to join as well! I have a bunch of names up now that I've thought of.
SO... what I need you to do now is...
1. Idea about ranking - Gamma, Delta, Epsilon OR Gamma, Delta with a short explanation why 2. Favourite pack name, list them in order of liking, add more if you can think of any 3. Vote on favourite colour scheme 4. Favourite land ideas 5. Founding members would be... Rhia, Moe, Neb, Yhi... as far as I can tell?
Ultimately the final decisions will be Easty's and mine, but we shall try to take in your ideas.
[b]Ranks - [/b] [b]Name - [/b] [b]Colour Scheme[/b] [b]Territories[/b]
Please reply with that form? It would be most wonderful. :]
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Post by AVALON ! on Mar 18, 2010 19:40:26 GMT -5
Apologies for all the crazy updates. Another thing we're adding to the concept is the instigation of joining fights. So basically what would happen is, if a wolf intends to join they meet a ranked member, and must participate in a mandatory joining fight to gain entry to the pack. They DO NOT have to win the fight! The fight would be against either another loner intending to join or a member. It must be judged by an ALPHA or BETA. Opinions? We used to do this in the old roleplay days. Basically it shows that you're a capable fighter. ;]
AND NOW WE GET TO SEE MY LOVELY COLOUR SCHEMED TABLES. I have far too much time on my hands. Here is the colour palette...
And now please prepare yourself for an onslaught of tables. The image is just the first 500px wide picture I found in my photobucket and has no correlation to the pack. xD PURPLE x TAN[atrb=border,0,true][atrb=cellSpacing,0,true][atrb=cellPadding,1,true][atrb=width,500,true][cs=2] | [cs=2][bg=2E0854] P A C K . O F . A W E S O M E | [cs=2][bg=593A77] Ryell Canyon | [cs=2][bg=F8F5C1]This is a little blurb about our lovely pack and we love it so much because it is awesome.
| [bg=2E0854][atrb=width,200] 2E0854 | [rs=2][bg=C8C59B] Rhiannon, Fortissimo, Neb, Yhi | [bg=593A77] 593A77 | [cs=2][bg=F8F5C1]Dark purple x Tan | [cs=2][bg=2E0854] T H E . R A N K E D | [bg=593A77] Alpha Male | [bg=F8F5C1]Fortissimo | [bg=593A77] Alpha Female | [bg=C8C59B]Rhiannon | [bg=593A77] Beta Male | [bg=F8F5C1] N/A | [bg=593A77] Beta Female | [bg=C8C59B] N/A | [bg=593A77] Gamma | [bg=F8F5C1]Neb , Yhi | [bg=593A77] Delta | [bg=C8C59B] N/A | [bg=593A77] Epsilon | [bg=F8F5C1] N/A | [cs=2][bg=2E0854] T H E . B U L K | [bg=593A77] Subordinate | [bg=C8C59B] N/A | [bg=593A77] Adolescent | [bg=F8F5C1] N/A | [bg=593A77] Pup | [bg=C8C59B] N/A | [bg=593A77] Omega | [bg=F8F5C1] N/A |
PURPLE X YELLOW[atrb=border,0,true][atrb=cellSpacing,0,true][atrb=cellPadding,1,true][atrb=width,500,true][cs=2] | [cs=2][bg=2E0854] P A C K . O F . A W E S O M E | [cs=2][bg=593A77] Ryell Canyon | [cs=2][bg=FDF5AB]This is a little blurb about our lovely pack and we love it so much because it is awesome.
| [bg=2E0854][atrb=width,200] 2E0854 | [rs=2][bg=FBEC5F] Rhiannon, Fortissimo, Neb, Yhi | [bg=593A77] 593A77 | [cs=2][bg=FDF5AB]Dark purple x Tan | [cs=2][bg=2E0854] T H E . R A N K E D | [bg=593A77] Alpha Male | [bg=FDF5AB]Fortissimo | [bg=593A77] Alpha Female | [bg=FBEC5F]Rhiannon | [bg=593A77] Beta Male | [bg=FDF5AB] N/A | [bg=593A77] Beta Female | [bg=FBEC5F] N/A | [bg=593A77] Gamma | [bg=FDF5AB]Neb , Yhi | [bg=593A77] Delta | [bg=FBEC5F] N/A | [bg=593A77] Epsilon | [bg=FDF5AB] N/A | [cs=2][bg=2E0854] T H E . B U L K | [bg=593A77] Subordinate | [bg=FBEC5F] N/A | [bg=593A77] Adolescent | [bg=FDF5AB] N/A | [bg=593A77] Pup | [bg=FBEC5F] N/A | [bg=593A77] Omega | [bg=FDF5AB] N/A |
PURPLE x BROWN[atrb=border,0,true][atrb=cellSpacing,0,true][atrb=cellPadding,1,true][atrb=width,500,true][cs=2] | [cs=2][bg=613513] P A C K . O F . A W E S O M E | [cs=2][bg=815D43] Ryell Canyon | [cs=2][bg=D4BDD4]This is a little blurb about our lovely pack and we love it so much because it is awesome.
| [bg=613513][atrb=width,200] 613513 | [rs=2][bg=AD99AD] Rhiannon, Fortissimo, Neb, Yhi | [bg=815D43] 815D43 | [cs=2][bg=D4BDD4]Dark purple x Tan | [cs=2][bg=613513] T H E . R A N K E D | [bg=815D43] Alpha Male | [bg=D4BDD4]Fortissimo | [bg=815D43] Alpha Female | [bg=AD99AD]Rhiannon | [bg=815D43] Beta Male | [bg=D4BDD4] N/A | [bg=815D43] Beta Female | [bg=AD99AD] N/A | [bg=815D43] Gamma | [bg=D4BDD4]Neb , Yhi | [bg=815D43] Delta | [bg=AD99AD] N/A | [bg=815D43] Epsilon | [bg=D4BDD4] N/A | [cs=2][bg=613513] T H E . B U L K | [bg=815D43] Subordinate | [bg=AD99AD] N/A | [bg=815D43] Adolescent | [bg=D4BDD4] N/A | [bg=815D43] Pup | [bg=AD99AD] N/A | [bg=815D43] Omega | [bg=D4BDD4] N/A |
PURPLE x PURPLE[atrb=border,0,true][atrb=cellSpacing,0,true][atrb=cellPadding,1,true][atrb=width,500,true][cs=2] | [cs=2][bg=2E0854] P A C K . O F . A W E S O M E | [cs=2][bg=583976] Ryell Canyon | [cs=2][bg=D4BDD4]This is a little blurb about our lovely pack and we love it so much because it is awesome.
| [bg=2E0854][atrb=width,200] 2E0854 | [rs=2][bg=AD99AD] Rhiannon, Fortissimo, Neb, Yhi | [bg=583976] 583976 | [cs=2][bg=D4BDD4]Dark purple x Tan | [cs=2][bg=2E0854] T H E . R A N K E D | [bg=583976] Alpha Male | [bg=D4BDD4]Fortissimo | [bg=583976] Alpha Female | [bg=AD99AD]Rhiannon | [bg=583976] Beta Male | [bg=D4BDD4] N/A | [bg=583976] Beta Female | [bg=AD99AD] N/A | [bg=583976] Gamma | [bg=D4BDD4]Neb , Yhi | [bg=583976] Delta | [bg=AD99AD] N/A | [bg=583976] Epsilon | [bg=D4BDD4] N/A | [cs=2][bg=2E0854] T H E . B U L K | [bg=583976] Subordinate | [bg=AD99AD] N/A | [bg=583976] Adolescent | [bg=D4BDD4] N/A | [bg=583976] Pup | [bg=AD99AD] N/A | [bg=583976] Omega | [bg=D4BDD4] N/A |
DARK BROWN x PURPLE[atrb=border,0,true][atrb=cellSpacing,0,true][atrb=cellPadding,1,true][atrb=width,500,true][cs=2] | [cs=2][bg=2F1C0F] P A C K . O F . A W E S O M E | [cs=2][bg=4D2E19] Ryell Canyon | [cs=2][bg=D4BDD4]This is a little blurb about our lovely pack and we love it so much because it is awesome.
| [bg=2F1C0F][atrb=width,200] 2F1C0F | [rs=2][bg=AD99AD] Rhiannon, Fortissimo, Neb, Yhi | [bg=4D2E19] 4D2E19 | [cs=2][bg=D4BDD4]Dark purple x Tan | [cs=2][bg=2F1C0F] T H E . R A N K E D | [bg=4D2E19] Alpha Male | [bg=D4BDD4]Fortissimo | [bg=4D2E19] Alpha Female | [bg=AD99AD]Rhiannon | [bg=4D2E19] Beta Male | [bg=D4BDD4] N/A | [bg=4D2E19] Beta Female | [bg=AD99AD] N/A | [bg=4D2E19] Gamma | [bg=D4BDD4]Neb , Yhi | [bg=4D2E19] Delta | [bg=AD99AD] N/A | [bg=4D2E19] Epsilon | [bg=D4BDD4] N/A | [cs=2][bg=2F1C0F] T H E . B U L K | [bg=4D2E19] Subordinate | [bg=AD99AD] N/A | [bg=4D2E19] Adolescent | [bg=D4BDD4] N/A | [bg=4D2E19] Pup | [bg=AD99AD] N/A | [bg=4D2E19] Omega | [bg=D4BDD4] N/A |
[atrb=border,0,true][atrb=cellSpacing,0,true][atrb=cellPadding,1,true][atrb=width,500,true][cs=2][bg=2F1C0F] R A N K . E X P L A N A T I O N S | [atrb=width,200][bg=4D2E19] Rank Name | [bg=D4BDD4] Explanation of duties | [bg=4D2E19] Alpha | [bg=AD99AD]The alphas are usually a mated pair that rule in the interest of the pack. Usually the strongest wolves, they command the pack and demand request. They can refuse members, alliances, or mates, start wars, assign ranks, lead hunts, and anything else that they wish to do. They can choose to mate with any member. Submission to the alphas is required. They may judge joining fights. | [bg=4D2E19] Beta | [bg=D4BDD4]The Beta pair does not have to be mated. They are the alpha's right hand men, and are usually very good friends of the alphas. They can accept new members, lead hunts, judge spars for ranks, and are in charge of keeping the peace and looking out for the well being of the pack. They are next in line should something happen to either alpha pair, and are usually the ones who challenge for leadership. They as well may judge joining fights. | [bg=4D2E19] Gamma | [bg=AD99AD]The Gammas are in charge of the warriors and do not have to be mated. They are usually the two strongest wolves in the pack and can be of either gender. They can judge spars over mates and food, and are in charge of training members and can accept newcomers. They are the lead warriors, and are the leaders in any type of battles. They are usually a newcomer's opponent in a joining fight. | [bg=4D2E19] Delta | [bg=D4BDD4]The Delta pair does not have to be mated, and can be of either gender. They are also friends of the alpha, and are mainly in charge of hunting. They can accept new members, as well as being able to judge fights for mates, and lead hunts. They are the lead hunters and are in charge of organizing any hunts. | [bg=4D2E19] Epsilon | [bg=AD99AD]The Epsilon pair are in charge of healing, and are not mated and can be of either gender. They are the main healers of the pack, and have to have an extensive knoweledge of herbs and remedies. The can accept new members. As well as knowing about healing, these wolves are the main source of spirituality in the pack. They are the storytellers and often spend much time with the pups, teaching them about The Great Spirit and telling them stories. | [bg=4D2E19] Subordinate | [bg=D4BDD4]When joining, a wolf is given the rank of subordinate. These are the main members of the pack, and can be promoted. They are the backbone of the pack. They are required to show submission to all ranks above them. | [bg=4D2E19] Adolescent | [bg=AD99AD]A subordinate rank, this is given to any wolf between one and two, as they are no longer considered a pup, and not yet an adult. | [bg=4D2E19] Pup | [bg=D4BDD4]Any children of the pack members are ranked as pups. They are cared for by their parents and the members of the pack. | [bg=4D2E19] Omega | [bg=AD99AD]The Omega wolf is either a wolf who has done a crime or committed a wrong and is on trial. They get picked on by the other members and are the last to feed after a hunt. It is a shameful rank, and they are frowned upon by the rest of the pack because of their crimes. |
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Post by Annushka Аня on Mar 18, 2010 20:28:12 GMT -5
Ranks - I like all the ranks Name - Valensi Pack, Zenllther Cadre Colour Scheme dark brown x purple TerritoriesRiver - fast moving, rushing waters Caves - For spelunking Shelf - The main part of the canyon, with most plants Arena - For fighting
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